The Book of Mormon provides another testament concerning the existence of hell, and explains how one can escape the chains of hell in this life, and an everlasting hell in the next life, through application of the Atonement of Jesus Christ. You not only need to have been a Mormon, but you have to have full knowledge that this is the restored church of God and still fought against it. 9:16; emphasis added). The question is, what exactly does full knowledge entail? When the lights were out and we were on the verge of sleep, our camp counselor took advantage of the moment and endeavored to imprint his teachings upon the minds of his captive audience. Is Jesus the Only Redeemer? One of these guests, however, appeared without the proper wedding attire. When I bring this issue up with some Latter-day Saints, I sometimes get defensive arguments. John the Revelator heard Christ proclaim that he possessed the keys of hell and of death (Rev. In addition, Alma defined the second death as dying as to things pertaining unto righteousness. These individuals are chained down to an everlasting destruction and are subject to the will of Satan. From its beginnings, it taught that very few people would go to "outer darkness" the Mormon concept of hell. The terms spiritual death or second death, lake of fire and brimstone, and outer darkness are all synonymous with hell, and all are descriptive of both the temporary and the permanent hell. One example would not be human since they were cast out of heaven with Satan before they could receive a body. That last part of the previous sentence is very important. The ex-mortal sons of perdition will be resurrected, as will everyone else; but they will finally suffer the second death, the spiritual death, for they are cut off again as to things pertaining to righteousness. (Hel. A person would have to be very wicked to know the church was true yet still fight against it! Hence the saying: They will go into the lake that burns with fire and brimstone. According to tenth President Joseph Fielding Smith. 801-422-6975. 3:20; 10:9- 10; Eph. He was not ignorant, and therefore he became perdition, and they who followed him were sons of perdition, because he and they sinned knowingly. [1] The pains of hell can also be experienced in mortality (Jacob 3:11). the man was silent (Matt 22:12); therefore, the king said: "Bind him hand and foot, and cast him into the exterior darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth. Whats interesting is that there are many former Mormons who still believe Jesus Christ was the Son of God and have a testimony of the Spirit of the Lord. However, their faith no longer is in the Jesus of Mormonism but the Jesus of the Bible. Then, I say unto you, they shall be as though there had been no redemption made; for they cannot be redeemed according to Gods justice; and they cannot die, seeing there is no more corruption (Alma 12:13,1618). By taking 2 Nephi 2:25 to its logical conclusion, we learn that Satan also fell that men might be, and that they might have joy! So, in conclusion, I would have a hard time believing that you or billions of souls as you put will qualify for perdition even while taking Mormon beliefs into account. In the rest of the article, were going to have to assume that Mormonism is true (of course, I dont think it is!) Another name for Outer Darkness is hell. Hell is outer darkness; it is the lake of fire; and it is the second death. It also teaches that the Atonement ransoms humankind from physical death through the resurrection and from spiritual death, or hell, through repentance. Another manual states, Baptism is the first saving ordinance of the gospel (see Articles of Faith 1:4). Italics in original). Later in the same discourse Alma blended the doctrines of the Fall, agency, and the second death together as an admonition to keep the commandments of God (see Alma 12:3137). Rev. 2. All missionaries are doing is trying to upgrade people to a premium plan of ruling over planets and polygamy. Your generous support makes the work of MRM possible. True, some former Mormons have expressed doubts and wondered if the church might possibly be true, which is a completely natural response after having left the one true church. If they decided they made a mistake because they still believed the church were true, they would be more apt to rejoin it rather than stay excommunicated and fight against it. While this is true, please define Mormon Doctrine before saying I did not quote Mormon Doctrine. 23:33). 21:8; cf. 28:2223). [2] For a discussion of the New Testament words that translate hell, see The Oxford Companion to the Bible, ed. 3:12), the tares are gathered and burned in the fire (Matt. T F It is practically impossible for those who were human to ever be sent to Outer Darkness. Those in this second group will be resurrected from the dead but will not be redeemed from the second (spiritual) death and cannot dwell in a kingdom of glory (D&C 88:32, 35). And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire [i.e., overcome or defeated by Christs Atonement]. D&C 133:73 says, These shall go away into outer darkness, where there is weeping, and wailing, and gnashing of teeth. Humans who never heard about Mormonism will not go there, as tenth President Joseph Fielding Smith said, That is a punishment that will not come to those who have never known the truth. Because reasons. There are three references that connect the judgment with a lake of fire and brimstone, and two references to a lake of fire. However, the use of the word fire in connection with judgment and the torment of the wicked is widespread throughout the Gospels. For example, Alma the Younger was delivered from the intensity of his hellish pain when he cried to the Lord for mercy. Just one rebellion. You are taking quotes that are not Mormon Doctrine. Nephis words can thus be applied to Jesus parable: the reason the rich man could not cross the great gulf to Abrahams bosom, or the reason the wicked could not join the Saints of God at the tree of life, is because the justice of God does not permit it. First, LDS Church scripture uses the term outer darkness to refer to a condition in the spirit world. [3]. A lot of people wanted a source on that. But the children of the kingdom [i.e., covenant breakers] shall be cast out into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth (Matt. As explained in D&C 88:11-13: How many people. The phrases depths of hell, awful hell, sleep of hell, pains of hell, chains of hell, everlasting hell, and endless hell are all unique to the Book of Mormon. Smith taught: The sons of perdition are those who have had a knowledge of the truth, have known that Jesus Christ was the Son of God, have had the testimony of the Spirit of the Lord, the Holy Ghost, and these things have all been revealed so that they know they are true; and then they turn against them and fight them knowingly. Banishment from the presence of God. 11:23). Here is one more thing to think about: I work full time with a Christian ministry aimed at converting Mormons. so we will be able to realistically discuss the likelihood that a person who left the church could ever end up in Outer Darkness. Jesus declared that this exalted city would be brought down to hell (Matt. Dennis L. Largey was an associate professor of ancient scripture at Brigham Young University when this was published. Alma the Younger contributed even more insight on the second death when he gave the wicked people of Ammonihah a detailed description of the fate of those who harden their hearts against the word of God: Then if our hearts have been hardened, yea, if we have hardened our hearts against the word, insomuch that it has not been found in us, then will our state be awful, for then we shall be condemned. 12:16), hell which hath no end (1 Ne. So, in the Mormon view, none of these so-called polygamist marriages are valid, religiously or legally. On the day of Pentecost, the apostle Peter spoke of the promise David had received that his soul would not be left in hell (Acts 2:27). Salvation is release from the guilt and power of sin through God's gift of grace. For behold, he surely must die that salvation may come; yea, it behooveth him and becometh expedient that he dieth, to bring to pass the resurrection of the dead, that thereby men may be brought into the presence of the Lord. But behold, the resurrection of Christ redeemeth mankind, yea, even all mankind, and bringeth them back into the presence of the Lord. (Joseph F. Smith,The Second Death,inBrian H. Stuy (editor), Collected Discourses: Delivered by Wilford Woodruff, his two counselors, the twelve apostles, and others, 18681898, 5 vols., (Woodland Hills, Utah: B.H.S. Publishing, 19871989), 4:227228. The first three are referred to as the three degrees of glory, often compared to the sun, the moon, and the stars (D&C 76:70 . There are two categories for those who should be considered sons of perdition. Outer darkness is not a kingdom of glory. Mormonism. Bad as they may suffer, and awful as their punishment may be, they are not among that group which is to suffer the eternal death and banishment from all influence concerning the power of God (Conference Reports, October 1958, 21). Hell is a place prepared for the devil and his angels, D&C 29:37-38. One of the messages of the Book of Mormon is that people sometimes lose the desire to repent. The word hell is mentioned twenty-three times in the New Testament: fifteen times in the Gospels, twice in the book of Acts, once each in James and 2 Peter, and four times in the book of Revelation. Finally, John saw that death and hell delivered up the dead to be judged according to their works, and death and hell were cast into [a] lake of fire (Rev. Clear as mud. Banishment from the power of God. In Christianity, it is understood that anyone who denies the holy spirit goes to outer darkness, but they see it as a synonym for Hell. And as such I would qualify. This is in contrast to the VAST MAJORITY OF PEOPLE, who will receive a kingdom of glory after the Final Judgment, and enter into one of three degrees of glory after the resurrection: celestial, terrestrial, or telestial kingdoms. Brigham Young University Your generous support makes the work of MRM possible. It is taught that, in the pre-mortal life, they chose to follow a plan proposed by Satan, rather than that presented by God the Father. The Book of Mormon teaches that after death, the spirits of those who "chose evil works rather than good" in mortality will be "cast out . Alma 40. ; Mormon Temple Worship. Latter Day Saint beliefs on hell are connected with the movement's doctrines of the plan of salvation, the degrees of glory and the telestial kingdom. Outer Darkness, I always heard, was reserved for a handful of suckers like Cain and Judas who saw God and/or Jesus and were still rebellious. For most, outer darkness, the lake of fire, and the second death have an end, but for the sons of perdition these states continue eternally. The Book of Mormon teaches that only through the Atonement of Christ can one escape the damnation of hell. Jacob testified that without the infinite atonement all mankind would be forever subject to the awful monster, death and hell, and thus would become like the devil and his angels (2 Ne. 8:1112). The third use occurs in the parable of the talents: "And cast ye the unprofitable servant into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth" (Matthew 25:30). In the teachings of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS Church), "outer darkness" has two separate meanings.. To become a son of perdition one must sin against the Holy Ghost, but before that is possible, one must receive the gift of the Holy Ghost (Doctrine and Covenants Student Manual Religion 324 and 325, 2001, p. 161). By EntropyJustKillUsNow, March 29, 2017 in Social Hall. You'll need to do a few things to get the most out of your ex-Mormon candle. 67, LDS Church Archives. New Testament [ edit] If their Prophet wrote in a journal, or said to someone in passing, or gave a talk a local school saying that, Eating toast without butter is a sin worthy of hell! that does not make it a Mormon Doctrine. But what is light? However, not once have I ever suspected such a person to be a closet believer in Mormonism. [4] Augustine, The City of God, trans. However, sons of perdition cannot achieve forgiveness and will be completely cast outside of the light of God. The term second death refers to spiritual death or separation from God. [DS 2:225.] It is doubtful if even Judas, who betrayed Jesus, was sufficiently enlightened to become a son of perdition (Gospel Doctrine,p. 545). https://www.mormonwiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=Outer_Darkness&oldid=27067. This extreme punishment will not be given to any but the sons of perdition (Doctrines of Salvation 2:220). As with anything in Mormon doctrine, theres a lot of confusion, contradictory information and just all around ignoring a topic that should be as simple as asking a question and getting an answer. . In contrast, Book of Mormon references to the second death are embedded in sermons that teach it in context with other essential elements of the plan of salvation. It is, therefore, important to examine carefully the context of each reference. Cain is a Son of Perdition. What is it? Satan and his followers are beings of spirit who were denied bodies and cast out of heaven during pre-mortal existence (see Plan of Salvation). St. Augustine wrote: Hell, which also is called a lake of fire and brimstone, will be material fire, and will torment the bodies of the damned, whether men or devilsthe solid bodies of the one, aerial bodies of the others; or if only men have bodies as well as souls, yet the evil spirits, though without bodies, shall be so connected with the bodily fires as to receive pain without imparting life. Mormons believe we existed before coming to Earth. 16:18). 9:4. Only a handful of "sons of perdition" would go. Even Nazi dictator Adolph Hitler will get nothing less than the telestial kingdom since he was never baptized/confirmed into the church; work was done in proxy for him in the London, England temple several decades ago. 21:8). 20:14). Additionally it provides helpful commentary on New Testament passages concerning hell. 12:22; Morm. 3. In short, Outer Darkness is eternal torture. Who of the following is NOT eligible for Outer Darkness. Provo, UT 84602 While Christianity affirms that many people who were created by God will perish in hell, Mormonism also espouses this . Thus ensued the War in Heaven, which resulted in Satan and his followers being cast out of heaven and denied the opportunity of receiving a physical body. The New Testament contains four references to the second death, all located in the Revelation of John. Outer Darkness. Through his Atonement, Resurrection, and ministry in the spirit world, Christ provided a bridge by which repentant souls could cross the gulf from hell to spiritual freedom. Any person who inherits one of the . Yea, Alma wrote, I did remember all my sins and iniquities, for which I was tormented with the pains of hell (Alma 36:13). No exact details are given. Joseph Fielding Smith who said that this class is composed of all who have known the power of God in this mortal life and then, having full knowledge of the power and purposes of God,rebel against him, putting Jesus Christ to open shame (Doctrines of Salvation 2:219-220. In Mormonism, it depends. Outer Darkness is the permanent location of Satan and his followers and the Sons of Perdition, who are not redeemed by the Atonement of Jesus Christ. Which means that really, no one knows anything about this. Yea, behold, this death bringeth to pass the resurrection, and redeemeth all mankind from the first deaththat spiritual death; for all mankind, by the fall of Adam being cut off from the presence of the Lord, are considered as dead, both as to things temporal and to things spiritual. Samuel also confirms the relationship John spoke of between the second death and the wicked being cast into fire, but he adds this explanatory clause: For they are cut off again as to things pertaining to righteousness.. There are possible characteristics of a son of perdition. According to the churchs website: The followers of Satan who will suffer with him in eternity. So get what they deserve. Yet how many sins and wrong choices has every humanincluding me and youmade? Does this description of God make it sound as if he is just (at least according to an LDS context)? Thus, the only mortals who can possibly become sons of perdition must be Latter-day Saints who fall/fell away. What is the Mormon plan of salvation? They go too far, and the Spirit leaves themYou cant renew them to repentancyou cannot save them. (Joseph Smith Jr., King Follett Discourse). Outer darkness is something which cannot be described, except that we know that it is to be placed beyond the benign and comforting influence of the Spirit of God banished entirely from his presence (Doctrines of Salvation2:220). What qualifies a person to be a Son of Perdition? Ellipsis mine). These are they who do two very specific things. 5:22), as were those who failed to cast away their sins (JSM 5:34; cf. Everyone is already going to the terrestrial kingdom by default. In this context, outer darkness is the spirit prison, or that part of the spirit world that the wicked inhabit prior to their resurrection. They will not have access to the Holy Ghost or Heavenly Father or Jesus. In the Latter Day Saint movement, "outer darkness" can refer to hell (the place where the spirits of the wicked reside after death but before the resurrection)[3] or to the place where the sons of perdition will reside. Temporary abode of the wicked. They knew better but still chose wrong, one told me. There are ten references to the lake of fire and brimstone in the Book of Mormon. lift[ed] up his eyes and saw Abraham and Lazarus across an impassable gulf (Luke 16:23). In a general conference talk, Joseph Fielding Smith further explained that. 5:30). Those consigned to hell or outer darkness are partakers of the second death, and their torment is as a lake of fire and brimstone. (1) We believe in trimming our wicks to 1/4 between each burn. Note the Book of Mormons addition of the words is as. Articles 1 - 7 will help your candle last longer and perform its best. The righteousness of some (Abraham or Lazarus) cannot erase the consequences of anothers sins (the rich man). (p. 273). In Mormonism, Outer darkness is described as "those who are unfaithful, those who will listen to Satan, who will lend a willing ear to his blandishments and to his allurements, when they go from this state of existence, they go into a condition where they are subject to his power. The opposition gospel twists the title of Adversary into a positive thing. So only a prophet can put the matter to rest well, thats nice that Brigham said there were no women, Joseph F. said there were no women, but Wilford Woodruff said there was no debate and there must be women. The apostle John saw the final judgment and wrote of the destiny of the wicked: And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. They believe that they are mortal men capable of mistakes just like the rest of us. Woman must atone for sins committed by the volition of her own choice, but she will never become an angel to the devil, and sin so far as to place herself beyond the reach of mercy. Brigham Young Discourse delivered October 8, 1861, pp. I said: I dont know and he said, How can I find outI just called Spencer Kimball and he told me he didnt know either. Wilford Woodruff in a meeting with the apostles, 1893 D. Michael Quinn, The Mormon Hierarchy: Extensions of Power (Salt Lake City, Utah: Signature Books, 1997) p. 795. (Salt Lake City: Bookcraft, 1966), 758. They place themselves beyond the power of repentance and beyond the mercies of God. Those who have never received the light are not to become Sons of Perdition (Conference Reports, October 1958, p. 21). Because of their disobedience, these spirits ended up not receiving bodies, a necessary ingredient to progress to mortality and be qualified for one of the three kingdoms of glory. . Mormon doctrines are often contradictory and inconsistent. 10:28). First of all, to become a son of perdition, you need to have been baptized into the church, then turned from the religion in order to fight against it, all the while knowing it is true. Also, Mormons believe in three Heavens. (Doctrines of Salvation 2:220-221). - Wilford Woodruff in a meeting with the apostles, 1893 D. Michael Quinn, The Mormon Hierarchy: Extensions of Power (Salt Lake City, Utah: Signature Books, 1997) p. 795. . Tenth President Joseph Fielding Smitha general authority who spoke more about this issue than any other leaderstated. Bold and italics in original). The city of Capernaum was upbraided for its lack of faith in view of the miracles Jesus performed there. D&C 76 does say telestial people are the ones thrust down to hell and not redeemed until the last resurrection. As Joseph Fielding Smith put it, those mortals who fit into this nebulous category of sons of perdition will suffer permanently while the worst of the worst sinners will suffer only temporarily before receiving a kingdom of glory. Lets go to modern revelation: that there would be no daughters of perdition. Joseph F. Smith Stan Larsen, ed., A Ministry of Meetings: The Diaries of Rudger Clawson, (Salt Lake City, Utah: Smith Associates and Signature Books, 1993) p. 560, Somebody called me up on the telephone and asked if there were daughters of perdition. So a heads up, this does not include you or any one who has ever been or will be born on Earth. [2]. The Nephites became so wicked, that contemplating murder was a source of happiness. Also, the whole thing about Daughters of Perdition. In this context, outer darkness is the spirit prison, or that part of the spirit world that the wicked inhabit prior to their resurrection. To qualify, a person would not only have to leave the Mormon church but also vehemently speak against it. He wrote: But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death (Rev. Banishment from the glory of God. 5:22), burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire (Matt. These spirits never received a mortal body necessary to progress to a kingdom of glory. They must have had a fullness of knowledge; a testimony which cannot be destroyed. FAIRMormon says on this page even: When any man, except the President of the Church, undertakes to proclaim one unsettled doctrine, as among two or more doctrines in dispute, as the settled doctrine of the Church, we may know that he is not moved upon by the Holy Ghost, unless he is acting under the direction and by the authority of the President. Because of the resurrection, the body and spirit of the wicked are restoredthe body from the grave and the spirit from hell to be judged. [1], Other views include those of Zane C. Hodges who controversially suggested that it represents a place for those who make it to heaven based on their faith, but have failed to perform good works during their time on the earth.[2]. Possibly but there is no citation there either. 15:2830). See Michael Hicks, Joseph Smith, W.W. Phelps, and the Poetic Paraphrase of The Vision, Journal of Mormon History 20 (Fall 1994) 2: 63-84 for discussion of authorship of this poem.). Clean and Unclean Outer Darkness. Just one sin. The Sons of Perdition are those who have lived as mortal men and women on the earth, have had the heavens opened to them and received a certain knowledge that Jesus is the Christ, and then have rejected the Savior, "having denied the Only Begotten Son of the Father, having crucified him unto themselves and put him to an open shame" (Doctrine and Covenants 76:34-35; see also Doctrine and Covenants 76:3133, 3637). (see Rom. Consistently, hell is associated with fire. For many years, those who have forfeited their membership in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints may have been told by other Mormons that they were Sons of Perdition destined for Outer Darkness. And since we know that prophets speaking define it, this is the definition we should use. In the parable of the wedding of the kings son, the king discovered that a guest was not properly attired in the required wedding garment, i.e., righteousness. Everyone but the Sons of Perdition and the devil and his devils, will overcome spiritual death through the Atonement of Jesus Christ. Even the wicked of the earth who never knew the power of God, after they have paid the price of their sinningfor they must suffer the excruciating torment which sins will bringshall at last come forth from the prison house. Your generous support makes the work of MRM possible. Generally, the outer darkness is thought to be hell; however, many Christians associate the outer darkness more generally as a place of separation from God or from the metaphorical "wedding banquet" that Jesus is expected to have upon his Second Coming. The Book of Mormon provides another testament of the reality of a designated place called hell, where the wicked are consigned. 8:17), and endless hell (Moro. He cried: O Jesus, thou Son of God, have mercy on me, who am in the gall of bitterness, and am encircled about by the everlasting chains of death. This desperate cry for forgiveness through Christ brought deliverance from the pains of hell Alma had experienced because of his sins (Alma 36:1620). Outer Darkness - Social Hall - Mormon Dialogue & Discussion Board. Johns announcement of death and hell releasing their dead for judgment is augmented by the Book of Mormon prophet Jacob, who taught the same doctrine but provided significantly more detail. hell.. They have wilfully (sic) made themselves servants of Satan and servants to him shall they remain forever. 1:13), gates of hell (2 Ne. As used in the New Testament, hell is an English word which is translated from two Greek words: hades (used ten times) and geenna (twelve times). . The Book of Mormon contains six references to the second death: one reference by Jacob (Jacob 3:11), three by Alma (Alma 12:16, 32; 13:30), and two by Samuel the Lamanite (Hel. In each New Testament passage that speaks of hell (the word hades is neutralneither a place of punishment nor reward but the place of departed spirits) the context associates it with suffering and punishment. Mormons also believe that those on Earth with bodies can become a Son of Perdition, tho this is difficult to do. Hence, the very worse lot in their lives will be the telestial kingdom. Just because Hitler, Mao, and Stalin along with Judas Iscariot (as mentioned above) never became Latter-day Saints apparently provides them with a much higher privilegea life in the telestial kingdom over those who once believed but left the true fold, kicking and screaming in their continued fight against the restored church of Jesus Christ. Outer darkness is something which cannot be described, except that it is to be placed beyond the benign and comforting influence of the Spirit of Godbanished entirely from his presence. But wait! 21:8; see also 19:20). It honors and glorifies Satan. He had a sure witness of the Lord and willfully chose to follow Satan instead. it could be a reference for the resurrected who gain inheritance on other worlds but without the fulness of
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